Saturday, July 23, 2011

The 'sane' person in the room can be a matter of perspective - AZ Republic

by Doug MacEachern, columnist - Jul. 24, 2011 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

Read more: Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik shared with the world the results of his personal investigation into the Jan. 8 Tucson-area shooting - people with political views different from his had caused the murders to happen, he concluded - someone special was listening.
The sheriff, who decried his state as a "mecca for racism and bigotry," became quite the celebrity then. He knew, intrinsically, that the talk shows - in a nutshell, Fox News - were "inflaming the American people," by which he meant conservative, "tea partyish," American people, by whom he meant people whose smoldering hostilities rendered them capable of murder once the right buttons were pushed.
Tucson shooter, tea-party activist. They all stew in the same pot of hate, in Dupnik's view.
"That may be free speech, but it's not without consequences," Dupnik said on the day of the shooting.
The sheriff's message went out over the airwaves, just like all those so-called hate messages. And someone special was listening.
Four days later, Quartzsite Police Chief Jeff Gilbert stood before his Town Council and delivered his own sober message about "hate." There was too much controversy out there in Quartzsite. Too much "propaganda." And too many people with a real dislike for local government officials.
"The (Tucson-area) shooting clearly appears to be motivated by a disturbed individual who is reported to have distorted political views, was anti-government, did not like or trust government officials, and believed they were just trying to cover up some conspiracy," said the chief.
"Does any of this sound familiar to our community?"
To those of us on the outside of Quartzsite, the little town certainly does seem seriously whacked-out. The best that outsiders can tell, a lot of it is loon vs. loon. It's hard to discern the precise politics of that isolated town near the Colorado River. But it is clear the police chief believes his opponents are anti-government types. And Chief Gilbert clearly sees it as his duty to protect the government from them. Any way he can.
"These words are warning signs," said the chief as he read from an e-mail he received from one of his long-standing opponents.
"The words of hatred hiding behind the Constitution, these are warning signs. The propaganda that's being spread about the local government, these are warning signs. The behavior and outbursts, the actions that have taken place in some of these council meetings, they are warning signs."
As The Republic's Dennis Wagner reported last Sunday, Chief Gilbert indeed has taken all those "warning signs" seriously. Numerous Quartzsite residents contend Gilbert has ordered his tiny force to harass them. He is issuing them tickets, indiscriminately, they claim. And he is charging them with faux crimes. Many Quartzsite-ites, including the mayor, say they have been "arrested" on Gilbert's orders multiple times.
A majority of Gilbert's own police force says it has had enough of the harassment. In June, 10 of Gilbert's 14 sworn officers signed a letter declaring they had "no confidence" in their chief. They complained about the citizen harassment and about the chief using the law to protect his friends.
The officers asked for public-safety officials outside Quartzsite to investigate. The Arizona Department of Public Safety says it is complying.
That was in June. Now, allies of Chief Gilbert are retaliating against the cops. The town has placed eight of the officers who signed the letter, as well as a staff technician, on administrative leave pending an investigation into their attempt to defame "the integrity and reputation of the town of Quartzsite, its chief of police, its town manager, and its common council."
The officers have been ordered to stay in their homes during the day. A de facto "house arrest," according to the town's mayor, Ed Foster.
"The chief of police is acting irrational," said the mayor. "What rational person, with all the national media attention focused on Quartzsite now, would act like this?"
I'm no shrink. Nor do I play one in news columns. But I have no doubt that Chief Gilbert, like Sheriff Dupnik before him, firmly believes he is the only rational person in the room. And he believes it is his job to come down on those people whom he deems the crazies. Which is to say, those people whose views he dislikes.
During that same Jan. 11 town meeting, Gilbert spoke directly to Mayor Foster, whom he views as one of those crazy people:
"Mr. Mayor, as the person running our Town Council meetings, I am passing this warning on to you," he said.
"You are the person charged with the responsibility for controlling the meetings to assure the business of the town is conducted without personal attack, outbursts and disruption. And I am the one who is charged with the responsibility of the safety of the public. And I hope and pray that the town of Quartzsite never makes the news for such a tragedy. I take all of these warning signs seriously. Mr. Mayor, I hope you do the same."
That's serious talk. Grim. Sober. Scary in an "angry man with a gun" way. And a predictable consequence of listening to too much wild-eyed political speech.
From Clarence Dupnik.
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Speaking of "sane"??? Here's Councilman Winslow's sworn testiminy to the County Justice of the Peace Court.


  1. Hey Joe,
    You want some more rope? Dumbass! You have got to be the biggest Turd the Town of Quartzsite has ever seen!!! See you in court!!!

  2. "First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out;
    Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out;
    Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out.
    And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."

    Martin Niemoller, 1892-1984

  3. Winslow you need to watch the video on a BIG screen of the meeting where Jennifer got arrested, she was speaking in an open to the public meeting and we were VERY interested in what she had to say, YOUR the one who began being disruptive by objecting to what she was saying and when the mayor shut you down, is when you should have just shut up, remember the mayor has control of the meetings not you Joe.

  4. Dear Joe,

    The only way you will end up in the hospital will be because you will have a panic attack because of the guilt you hold, and your knowledge of what part you have played in turning Quartsite into an internment camp. Not only the citizens, but some of the police officers as well.
    Those of us who are paying attention to what is going on in this country in different locations are seeing that you are a traitor to the Constitution of the United States, you are a traitor to millions of your fellow veterans who have fought and died for the Constitution, and the peoples right to freedoms for hundreds of years, you are a traitor to your community and a traitor to the oaths you have taken, and last but not least, you are a traitor to yourself.
    I'm sure you are coming to the realization that the truth will be outed, and you will go to jail. I'm hoping that you will quietly resign, and move out of town before you do something you will regret.
    Because when it comes down to it Joe, when people like you take away other peoples freedoms- it won't be long until the very thing that you take away from others, will be taken away from you.

  5. I think Doug MacEachern had a great point in his column in the Republic "The sane person in the room", he theorizes that days after the Jared Loughner shooting, Jeff Gilbert was so inspired by Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik's use of fear-mongering to stifle free speech in his county, that he would try the same approach in his town.

    In his now infamous "Warning to the Mayor" speech, he compares those in his town asking too many tough questions or daring to speak out against corruption to mentally-ill mass murderer Jared Loughner.

    Now Joe Winslow has taken a cue from both Clarence Dupnik and Jeff Gilbert and has REALLY upped the ante now when it comes to extreme rhetoric in his sworn testimony the other day when he compares those in the town working to expose corruption to the likes of "Shining Path, Baader-Mienhof and the Red Brigades." He says that "THEY shouldn't be allowed to walk around armed."

    Jeff's Gilbert's speech was scary enough, but at least he was just comparing them to a lone nut, not to hardcore terrorist groups like Joe Winslow does, he takes fear-mongering to a whole new level!

  6. That may be free speech, but it's not without consequences," Dupnik said on the day of the shooting.

    You may have your freedom of speech, but there are limitations to it...there's penalties to pay!" Gilbert said on the day this video was filmed: